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RPI + TSOP32138

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:36 am
by garycooper
Freshly subscribed, so first of all, hi to everyone.

I recently add TSOP32138 (this package http://snootlab.com/composants/131-kit- ... on-ir.html) to my RPI.
I tried to learn IR code from my AC with LIRC, but i failed...
Learning process do not work properly and i feel my skill are not enough to manage it....

So i found AnalysIR and i'm ready to buy a license but i would like to know if AnalysIR could help me to control my 2 AC.

- FUJITSU ASYA12LK (http://www.amazon.fr/ATLANTIC-3800W-MUR ... B00504OYOE)
- SAMSUNG MH26AP2-07 (http://www.samsung.com/fr/support/model/MH26AP2-07)

Thanks for your help

Nicolas

Re: RPI + TSOP32138

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:31 pm
by AnalysIR
Hi

I suspect the TSOP32138 is part of your problem. It is not designed for long burst signals according to the data sheet. AC signals are usually very long.

You can see our suggested IR receivers here: http://www.analysir.com/blog/2013/08/20 ... nent-kits/
Either of the 38kHz receivers should be fine. TSSP4038 is good for decoding with AnalysIR and TSOP34438 is good for deployed projects.
(there is a post on this forum which reviews the user experience with many IR receivers http://www.analysir.com/joomla/IRforum/ ... p?f=5&t=16)

Other than that, AnalysIR is the best tool avaliable for analysing & decoding IR signals. However, some technical skill on you system (Arduino or RPi etc) and knowledge of IR signals is required. Not every signal is decoded to HEX/Bunary automatically, but we usually add it in when requested. AnalysIR can autmatically generate code for IRLib and IRremote on Arduino class devices and also generates LIRC RAW format for use with Linux/RPi systems.

Generally it is not for absolute beginners and does not require expert level skills. Somewhere in between - just beyond beginner level.

This is a good site to learn about IR: http://www.sbprojects.com/knowledge/ir/index.php

Re: RPI + TSOP32138

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:18 pm
by garycooper
Thanks for your answer.

Any way to get a demo version of the soft ? before buying licence i'd rather be sure my model is compatible.
RAW file for LIRC generated are ready to use with or i'll need to integrate it in conf file ?


Thanks for your help

This site is very interesting thanks http://www.sbprojects.com/knowledge/ir/index.php

Re: RPI + TSOP32138

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:02 pm
by AnalysIR
Sorry, we have a demo version but it is not available for download yet, but plan to have one available next year.

You will need to be familiar with the operation of LIRC on your RPi platform, before undertaking any project with IR.


My guess is that you will have problems recording AC signals with the IR receiver you have.


Why not try out IRremote or IRLib on an arduino. You can get Arduino clones for less than $5 including worldwide shipping!....less complicated for beginners.

Re: RPI + TSOP32138

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:16 pm
by garycooper
my goal is to get a wifi to IR transmitter and i feel i'll have problem with Wifi on Arduino ?

Could you recommend me a site where i could buy everything (arduino, wifi shield, IR receivers/emetters, temperature receivers) ?

Thanks

Re: RPI + TSOP32138

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:27 pm
by AnalysIR
I would use eBay & Aliexpress for your shopping list. Delivery can be slow but value is very good. Just do your search and sort by lowest price including shipping.

I normally suggest that new users should start out with simple projects and work your way up to more complex stuff - one step at a time. Often, the biggest mistake is start a more complex project without understanding the basics first.

Project 1: First learn about IR signals & protocols. Then learn how to send and receive IR signals on your platform. Try as many examples as possible that are avaialble online as starter projects.
Project 2: Learn how to use wifi on your platform (cheaper alternatives are bluetooth or NRF24l01+ or even using IR to communicate between devices)
Project 3: Combine both projects 1 & 2.

Re: RPI + TSOP32138

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:34 pm
by garycooper
Let me know if you have some reference on ebay & Aliexpress to share with me, cause i'm not sure what i am supposed to buy .

I'm not asking u a shopping list but some link to :
Arduino
Wifi Shield
Receivers...

Thanks a lot

Re: RPI + TSOP32138

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:36 pm
by AnalysIR
Sorry I dont have time now to do the searching for you...you may get some answers on the Arduino forum.

List
Arduino: Either a Leonardo or UNO (any type). An Arduino Yun comes with WiFi but not really for beginners & is very expensive.

Ir receiver: TSOP34438 (or most TSOPs with 38kHz modulation frequency)

IR emitter: TSAL6100 or any TSAL6x00

Wifi module: there is currently a serial wifi module - esp8266 - available for less than $5 but not for beginners http://hackaday.com/2014/08/26/new-chip ... ule-its-5/. The Yun is expensive as mentioned above. Another alternative would be to consider the Spark core @$39 or their new version which is only $19 (shipping in March). If you prototyped on a cheap Arduino first and then moved to Spark (arduino compatible, but different) that might be the best overall approach. http://www.spark.io

Hope that helps.

PS AnalysIR is not yet supported on the spark device, but will be soon.

Re: RPI + TSOP32138

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:33 pm
by garycooper
Thanks,

I'm really sorry to ask you some help, but i spent the last 2 week learning RPI, i have to do it now with arduino ...

Could you tell me if this product are good
Arduino : http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Leonardo-R3-Pro- ... 1517757840

Ir Receiver/Ir emitter : I could buy a package on your website ?

Wifi : http://www.ebay.fr/itm/ESP8266-Serial-W ... 1c45d0ca21

Do i need extra cable or anything else ???

Thanks

Re: RPI + TSOP32138

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:35 pm
by AnalysIR
Arduino : is fine.

Ir Receiver/Ir emitter : IR Components are available on our website. Worldwide shipping is included if you have/buy a registered copy of AnalysIR.

Wifi : is OK, but works at 3.3v only...so you will need to build a level converter. Also, it is not easy to get this working as it requires a lot of work. You will get some support via the Arduino forum.

Also, if you do your searches via ebay.com vs .fr you will get better pricing in $ instead of €. I always use the .com on ebay instead of the .ie.

I was just thinking that you might be better off using the USB IR Toy from 'dangerous proptotypes'. It has a receiver & emitter already on board and connects via USB. It works with AnalysIR & also the RPi and Wimdows. It costs just about $22. This way you could use your RPi enabled with wifi and the IR Toy connected. Again there will be some learning involved and it might be worthwhile to read thru the IR Toy forum first via http://www.dangerousprototypes.com